Ohh Heidorn asks my fav topic: security as code and Chris Hughes on the stage to answer.

He expalins how this works in Azure and AWS through reference architecture.

It is another level of maturity.

Perry adds that “easy button can cause us to lose sight” how do you check the checker

David Lango says the government has to get quicker at ATOs

Do we need hundreds of controls? How can we automate.